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It looks like maybe 10 heats of the 4x200 and 4 heats of the 4x800. Then one heat of the girls DMR. That's at least 90 minutes, probably closer to 2 hours.
Yeah, we'll be doing that on thursday most likely. We both have a lot of work/a busy class schedule for the next few days. Team title requires us to think about/research other event areas, so it'll take longer. At least thats the case with me. My gut tells me Bensalem's got the best shot, but they may be spreading themselves too thin. Pennridge has a shot to sneak in there for sure. But I'll be crunching numbers later in the week.
Henderson too perhaps ... they could get roughly 30 points from their 3 events ... maybe not enough for a team title unless there are some slip ups but at least enough points to be in the trophy conversation
garnet valley with purely zaza also can rack up points
I chose garnet Valley. Zaza I think could get 28 points alone, then the 4x200 could get some. Irving in the 200 and maybe one of them sneaks in for the 60.
The 3k/DMR mile is a lot harder than most people think. It happens occasionally outdoors at Baldwin, but at States indoor it's pretty much impossible to do a successful one.
800 1-Logue 2-Kunzweiler 3-Stone 4-Wiseman 5-Rivera 6-Smathers 7-Wolfe 8-Scripture Top 3 guys break away and all run 1:52 hig to 1:53 low. Wiseman nips Rivera for 5th. Mile- 1-Coyle-4:09.77 2-russell-4:09.81 3-Aziz-4:15 4-Zingarini-4:17 5-Huemmler-4:19 6-Jewett-4:19 7-Wistar-4:20 8-Francis-4:20 Francis sets it up by being aggressive early. Russell moves through the middle but just falls prey to Coyle's massive kick. Aziz has only lost to Russell once on the track and never in a mile. 3k- 1-Russell-8:32 2-Norris-8:35 3-Quinn-8:39 4-Savage-8:39 5-E. Martin-8:40 6-Barchet-8:40 7-Wilson-8:42 8-Colwell-8:43 Norris and Wilson set the race up with a nice steady pace early and try to take awy Russell's legs. He moves with 3 laps to go. A SR 15 guys break 8:50. 4 x 8 1-O'Hara-7:54.13 2-WCH-7:54.15 3-Upper Darby-8:00 4-DTE-8:04 5-State College-8:05 6-Penncrest-8:06 7-Bensalem-8:08 8-North Penn-8:09 O'Hara finally beats Henderson for a State Championship at the line as Belfatto fights off Chaborek. DMR- 1-LaSalle-10:22.31 2-Cumberland Valley-10:29.83 3-GFS-10:29.85 4-CRN-10:33 5-WCE-10:42 6-Great Valley-10:44 7-DTW-10:47 8-CBE-10:48 LaSalle dominates, but Stone and Coyle have a little too much junk in their legs to get the State Record. Team Scores 1-Pennridge-34 2-LaSalle-33 3-Garnet Valley-30 4-Henderson-29 5-Bensalem-24 A place here and a place there will make the difference. A big step up by the non-stars will make a difference.
Wish you didn't post this anonymously! Really like the predictions with time :) Big faith in Connor Quinn, I like that pick. I was considering that as well.
Hope people post more of these!
--ForrestCRN
P.S. Once I have my team scores I'll post a list like this as well.
Why isn't the mile going to go sub 4:10? You have Coyle who ran 4:11 last year who is as fast and stronger then he was last year. You have Russell who just ran 3:02 and is not afraid to lead a race. If it's through 600 in 1:34-1:35, they'll go under 4:10. Both of these guys want to and are ready to run fast. They're both kind of under raced so I'm sure that they're itching to get at it.
I'd love to see this mile sub 4:10 but I don't expect it. Coyle went 4:11.97 for the 1600 outdoors, that converts to about a 4:13.5 mile. In theory it converts even slower indoors. Russell has a 4:15 relay split, not sure if mile or 1600. Huemmler 1600 pr converts to a 4:14 mile. Even with the excitement of a state championship, to knock 4 or more seconds off of a their PR's is a big expectation, especially indoors. I'm hoping a state record at 4:12.5, but I'm guessing 4:14 or 4:15 will probably end up winning it. -RJJL
If it were just a mile race without a state title on the line, a race like the Henderson Distance Festival with this mile field, I could see it being fast, but this is the state title, and Russell is doubling.
I totally agree that Coyle and Russell can probably break the state record and sub 4:10 could be close, this is a mile not a 1600 remember. (Could ran 4:11 for 1600). He would have been about 4:13.0 for a full Mile.
Magaha lead from the gun outdoors his junior year and same with Huemmler last year, because they had the luxery of a single race. If Russell wants to double successfully, which I believe he does, he will have this race go out tactically and then push with 800 to go. Now maybe Russell believes in his own abilities and strength to double, then I could see him going after it. If he weren't in the 3k, I'd go as far to say I could see Russell going out in something as fast as 2:03/2:04 for 800 and 3:05/3:06 for 1200. But since he is doubling I see it being a conservative pace (unless Huemmler pushes it, but he two is doubling and coming off sickness.). Even Huemmler leading it'll be around 2:06ish, but if I were Russell I'd want a 2:10 first 800. The slower the better. Then I'd just run straight 30's for a 4:11 if that's what it took to win. This would be tough, but not as brutal on him as leading from the gun.
Obviously we can only speculate here, not sure what Coach Kelly is thinking, but that'd be my strategy for doubling with his type of strengh.
So do this guys have state record capability? Yes. Is this the race for them to show that? I don't think so. Maybe at Nationals we'll see Tony go out in the DMR or 4xMile in 3:05 for 1200 to see what he's got, but not when state gold is on the line along with a possible state double gold. Just not smart. Willig could have gone out in 2:30 for 1k and like 3:03/3:04 and been fine last year. Think about it, he ran 2:22.5 for like 980m (he was a bit short and got DQ'd) along with 3:00 on a flat track (lehigh). So he could have blasted it out, but it didn't make sense for him to do that.
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Whoever said Aziz has only lost to Russell once on the track and never in the mile was wrong. He lost in the mile at Chesco Champs... by like 8 seconds. Also, Aziz's 1600 PR is a 4:19 and mile PR is a 4:20 (both outdoor). I can't see him dropping 5 seconds off his PR. Besides that, your predictions were good.
The game plan at States is pretty simple. Huemmler knows that Coyle has a huge kick and will set a fast pace to try and drag the kick out of him. If Russell wants to win, he will be up there with Jack. If Russell wants to place and save for the 3k and win that, then he will wait back and then go, but in a tactical race I don't think anyone is beating Coyle. He has too much foot speed.
For Bensalem's 4x800, I'm pretty sure Qhyle Elijah is on that squad. I thought he was outdoors? He split 1:56 last season so I'd assume he was. Rivera is a sick doubler. His state leading, by over a second, 1:55.13 was off the double. The right combination of Bensalem runners could have a sick 4x800 going.
Heummlers split at MoC? He wasn't there, at least I didn't see him when I went over to talk to Dylan.
Also Qhyle Elijah won't be on the 4x8. He's in the open 200 and 400 where he can grab some points, along with the long jump (i'd guess 6th in that event) AND he is in the 4x2 and 4x4.
Line up shold be: Francis, Cox-Finn (unless he's injured), French, and Rivera.
I went conservative on the times, don't see anybody trying to take this out hard. I think Russell will be tired enough off the mile to stay close to the pack, but he will kick with enough left to secure the victory. Couldn't find much on Berry except December stuff, but he could surprise. Shearn is a big question mark coming off of the injury up at Yale, don't really know how much time he lost and where he's at right now.
Chris Berry has a bad habit of not doing much more than simply hanging on someone until it comes time for him to make a move. Thus he has a bunch of lame splits in the relays that he has been doing (2:06's and the like). Amongst great competition though, he is able to drop great times. Last Outdoor season he had back to back weeks of 10 second pr's in the league and district meets going from a 9:44ish pr prior to leagues to dropping a school record 9:23.
I admittedly don't know much of anything about the non SOL runners, but I fully expect him surprise at states.
No Kevin James in anyone's predictions? The kid ran a 4:22/8:54 which is the 6th fastest 3k on a flat track... on the double. Thank God Coyle isn't in the 3k, he could do damage.
Apparently Coyle missed a whole week of training. Not sure how that will affect him. It would have been awesome to see Coyle and Russell go out it back to back in open events.
Maybe he doesn't even run the DMR if he's feeling bad... We've got 3 of the top 4 milers in the state sick the weekend before the state meet. I'm very interested to see who recovers and how well they can all do, especially on the double.
To RJJL and Forrest CRN, what you don't understand about this mile race is that both of these guys are already State Champions. While they're both very competitive and really want to win, they're not afraid to run. Ned Willig was in great shape, but he had that history of running poorly in the State meet. So, he couldn't take any chances. Coyle and Russell are both in great shape and they're not afraid to fail. That is what could produce a historic race. Coyle being sick last week could freshen his legs up a little. Sometimes, a forced rest is good for the body.Don't count Huemmler out either. I'm sure he feels like he has to make up for last week's fiasco.
Willig ran 4:11 outdoors the year before at states, I don't know if he had a hisotry of running poorly anywhere ... he was, however, looking for his first ever state championship and he was a pretty comfortable favorite so he had to race carefully if he was going to pull of the win and set up his team to win double gold ... so i do agree in some respects
Anonymous, I like your enthusiasm for this race and I really hope you’re right and I’m wrong about the mile time, because I would love to see sub 4:10. I agree with you, these guys are very competitive, they work really hard and they'll be going all out for the win. It’s just that dropping 4 seconds off of a 4:14 PR is so much harder than from say, a 4:30. To date, Huemmler’s 4:16 is the top open indoor mile time in the state and while that’s an outstanding run, it’s really not even close to 4:10.
And I’m definitely not counting Huemmler out. I’m not even sure how to predict this one. Any combo of Huemmler, Russell and Stone (alpha order here) wouldn’t surprise me. Harriman could get into the mix too and Groh would probably be my sleeper pick for a top 5 finish. But I still say (reluctantly) that a 4:14 will win it. -RJJL
If you're referring to Ned's "history of running poorly" at the State meet" to his sophomore year at indoor states and districts outdoor... he was a sophomore. Junior year he went 4:11 outdoors. Being his teammate and seeing how hard he worked on the track, if Ned wanted to go for Endress' record, he would have. It wasn't that he didn't want to take chances, it's that he's a great teammate and only did what he had to to win and set us up nicely in the DMR. He was actually feeling pretty bad for the DMR, he had a headache I believe, and still dropped a 3:00.
I do agree with the forced rest being a good thing. Your body knows best and sometimes it needs to keep your mind in check.
I do expect James to come out with two medals, both around 5th place.
Why wouldn't Coyle run the DMR? Unless an injury occurs in the mile there would be no reason for him not to.
i think they are saying based on his sickness he may not be healthy enough for the dm ... they have enough other pieces to make something happen, but certainly makes the dmr much more interesting if coyle isn't on the anchor for lasalle ... also has to make you less confident in his open mile potential
and for the record ned is the man that's why he is the background of the blog ;)
btw rtj you should join the prediction contest on facebook, i'd like to see your picks, same with you chris if you would be willing to join
How much time would you say is between the 3k and dmr?
ReplyDeleteIt looks like maybe 10 heats of the 4x200 and 4 heats of the 4x800. Then one heat of the girls DMR. That's at least 90 minutes, probably closer to 2 hours.
Deletethere is certainly time, but few can pull of the double, not impossible by any means but it takes a lot of ability to pull it off
DeleteEtrain, will you be up at States?
ReplyDeletei wish i could be but unfortunately our conference championships are that weekend and i have my own races to run, but good luck to everyone competing
DeleteAre you doing a video for team title?
ReplyDeleteYeah, we'll be doing that on thursday most likely. We both have a lot of work/a busy class schedule for the next few days. Team title requires us to think about/research other event areas, so it'll take longer. At least thats the case with me. My gut tells me Bensalem's got the best shot, but they may be spreading themselves too thin. Pennridge has a shot to sneak in there for sure. But I'll be crunching numbers later in the week.
Delete--ForrestCRN
Henderson too perhaps ... they could get roughly 30 points from their 3 events ... maybe not enough for a team title unless there are some slip ups but at least enough points to be in the trophy conversation
Deletegarnet valley with purely zaza also can rack up points
I chose garnet Valley. Zaza I think could get 28 points alone, then the 4x200 could get some. Irving in the 200 and maybe one of them sneaks in for the 60.
ReplyDeleteThe 3k/DMR mile is a lot harder than most people think. It happens occasionally outdoors at Baldwin, but at States indoor it's pretty much impossible to do a successful one.
-RTJ
800
ReplyDelete1-Logue
2-Kunzweiler
3-Stone
4-Wiseman
5-Rivera
6-Smathers
7-Wolfe
8-Scripture
Top 3 guys break away and all run 1:52 hig to 1:53 low. Wiseman nips Rivera for 5th.
Mile-
1-Coyle-4:09.77
2-russell-4:09.81
3-Aziz-4:15
4-Zingarini-4:17
5-Huemmler-4:19
6-Jewett-4:19
7-Wistar-4:20
8-Francis-4:20
Francis sets it up by being aggressive early. Russell moves through the middle but just falls prey to Coyle's massive kick. Aziz has only lost to Russell once on the track and never in a mile.
3k-
1-Russell-8:32
2-Norris-8:35
3-Quinn-8:39
4-Savage-8:39
5-E. Martin-8:40
6-Barchet-8:40
7-Wilson-8:42
8-Colwell-8:43
Norris and Wilson set the race up with a nice steady pace early and try to take awy Russell's legs. He moves with 3 laps to go. A SR 15 guys break 8:50.
4 x 8
1-O'Hara-7:54.13
2-WCH-7:54.15
3-Upper Darby-8:00
4-DTE-8:04
5-State College-8:05
6-Penncrest-8:06
7-Bensalem-8:08
8-North Penn-8:09
O'Hara finally beats Henderson for a State Championship at the line as Belfatto fights off Chaborek.
DMR-
1-LaSalle-10:22.31
2-Cumberland Valley-10:29.83
3-GFS-10:29.85
4-CRN-10:33
5-WCE-10:42
6-Great Valley-10:44
7-DTW-10:47
8-CBE-10:48
LaSalle dominates, but Stone and Coyle have a little too much junk in their legs to get the State Record.
Team Scores
1-Pennridge-34
2-LaSalle-33
3-Garnet Valley-30
4-Henderson-29
5-Bensalem-24
A place here and a place there will make the difference. A big step up by the non-stars will make a difference.
The mile isn't going sub 4:10.
DeleteWish you didn't post this anonymously! Really like the predictions with time :) Big faith in Connor Quinn, I like that pick. I was considering that as well.
DeleteHope people post more of these!
--ForrestCRN
P.S. Once I have my team scores I'll post a list like this as well.
Why isn't the mile going to go sub 4:10? You have Coyle who ran 4:11 last year who is as fast and stronger then he was last year. You have Russell who just ran 3:02 and is not afraid to lead a race. If it's through 600 in 1:34-1:35, they'll go under 4:10. Both of these guys want to and are ready to run fast. They're both kind of under raced so I'm sure that they're itching to get at it.
ReplyDeleteI'd love to see this mile sub 4:10 but I don't expect it. Coyle went 4:11.97 for the 1600 outdoors, that converts to about a 4:13.5 mile. In theory it converts even slower indoors. Russell has a 4:15 relay split, not sure if mile or 1600. Huemmler 1600 pr converts to a 4:14 mile. Even with the excitement of a state championship, to knock 4 or more seconds off of a their PR's is a big expectation, especially indoors. I'm hoping a state record at 4:12.5, but I'm guessing 4:14 or 4:15 will probably end up winning it. -RJJL
DeleteIf it were just a mile race without a state title on the line, a race like the Henderson Distance Festival with this mile field, I could see it being fast, but this is the state title, and Russell is doubling.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree that Coyle and Russell can probably break the state record and sub 4:10 could be close, this is a mile not a 1600 remember. (Could ran 4:11 for 1600). He would have been about 4:13.0 for a full Mile.
Magaha lead from the gun outdoors his junior year and same with Huemmler last year, because they had the luxery of a single race. If Russell wants to double successfully, which I believe he does, he will have this race go out tactically and then push with 800 to go. Now maybe Russell believes in his own abilities and strength to double, then I could see him going after it. If he weren't in the 3k, I'd go as far to say I could see Russell going out in something as fast as 2:03/2:04 for 800 and 3:05/3:06 for 1200. But since he is doubling I see it being a conservative pace (unless Huemmler pushes it, but he two is doubling and coming off sickness.). Even Huemmler leading it'll be around 2:06ish, but if I were Russell I'd want a 2:10 first 800. The slower the better. Then I'd just run straight 30's for a 4:11 if that's what it took to win. This would be tough, but not as brutal on him as leading from the gun.
Obviously we can only speculate here, not sure what Coach Kelly is thinking, but that'd be my strategy for doubling with his type of strengh.
So do this guys have state record capability? Yes. Is this the race for them to show that? I don't think so. Maybe at Nationals we'll see Tony go out in the DMR or 4xMile in 3:05 for 1200 to see what he's got, but not when state gold is on the line along with a possible state double gold. Just not smart. Willig could have gone out in 2:30 for 1k and like 3:03/3:04 and been fine last year. Think about it, he ran 2:22.5 for like 980m (he was a bit short and got DQ'd) along with 3:00 on a flat track (lehigh). So he could have blasted it out, but it didn't make sense for him to do that.
--ForrestCRN
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ReplyDeletealso if you are going to states and would like to cover the state meet for the blog with videos and interviews and what not please message me on facebook
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Whoever said Aziz has only lost to Russell once on the track and never in the mile was wrong. He lost in the mile at Chesco Champs... by like 8 seconds. Also, Aziz's 1600 PR is a 4:19 and mile PR is a 4:20 (both outdoor). I can't see him dropping 5 seconds off his PR. Besides that, your predictions were good.
ReplyDeleteThe game plan at States is pretty simple. Huemmler knows that Coyle has a huge kick and will set a fast pace to try and drag the kick out of him. If Russell wants to win, he will be up there with Jack. If Russell wants to place and save for the 3k and win that, then he will wait back and then go, but in a tactical race I don't think anyone is beating Coyle. He has too much foot speed.
For Bensalem's 4x800, I'm pretty sure Qhyle Elijah is on that squad. I thought he was outdoors? He split 1:56 last season so I'd assume he was. Rivera is a sick doubler. His state leading, by over a second, 1:55.13 was off the double. The right combination of Bensalem runners could have a sick 4x800 going.
Does anyone know Huemmler's split at MoC?
Etrain, are you having a fantasy draft this year?
-RTJ
Heummlers split at MoC? He wasn't there, at least I didn't see him when I went over to talk to Dylan.
DeleteAlso Qhyle Elijah won't be on the 4x8. He's in the open 200 and 400 where he can grab some points, along with the long jump (i'd guess 6th in that event) AND he is in the 4x2 and 4x4.
Line up shold be: Francis, Cox-Finn (unless he's injured), French, and Rivera.
--ForrestCRN
I think you can only run four events at States. I don't think he's in the 4x200, but the rest sounds about right.
ReplyDeleteI didn't think Jack was there either, but someone said he looked bad at MoC so I thought he may have been.
-RTJ
Heummler was at Millrose
Delete3k Predictions
ReplyDelete1. Russell 8:40
2. Colwell 8:42
3. Norris 8:43
4. Savage 8:44
5. Martin,E 8:44
6. Wilson 8:44
7. Macauley 8:45
8. Quinn 8:46
9. Barchet 8:48
10.Martin,C 8:49
11.Berry 8:50
12.James 8:51
13.Shearn 8:52
14.Williams 8:52
15.Pitone 8:53
16.McDermott 8:53
17.Johnston 8:53
18.Collins 8:55
19.Archer 8:58
I went conservative on the times, don't see anybody trying to take this out hard.
I think Russell will be tired enough off the mile to stay close to the pack, but he will kick with enough left to secure the victory.
Couldn't find much on Berry except December stuff, but he could surprise.
Shearn is a big question mark coming off of the injury up at Yale, don't really know how much time he lost and where he's at right now.
Should be a fun race.
-Cummings, WC East
I've recently heard rumors that he only took a week off and will be ready to go. So I may have to re-do my 3k list.
DeleteBerry as been running relays. He anchored an SMR and DMR at some Lawrenceville meets. No idea the splits though.
Love the list with everyone!
--ForrestCRN
P.S. Hope you're running in that DMR Cummings, we were rooting for to get that 3k time :) Good luck at states if you're running and with outdoor.
Chris Berry has a bad habit of not doing much more than simply hanging on someone until it comes time for him to make a move. Thus he has a bunch of lame splits in the relays that he has been doing (2:06's and the like). Amongst great competition though, he is able to drop great times. Last Outdoor season he had back to back weeks of 10 second pr's in the league and district meets going from a 9:44ish pr prior to leagues to dropping a school record 9:23.
DeleteI admittedly don't know much of anything about the non SOL runners, but I fully expect him surprise at states.
Nico Metzler
No Kevin James in anyone's predictions? The kid ran a 4:22/8:54 which is the 6th fastest 3k on a flat track... on the double. Thank God Coyle isn't in the 3k, he could do damage.
ReplyDelete-RTJ
Apparently Coyle missed a whole week of training. Not sure how that will affect him. It would have been awesome to see Coyle and Russell go out it back to back in open events.
DeleteMaybe he doesn't even run the DMR if he's feeling bad... We've got 3 of the top 4 milers in the state sick the weekend before the state meet. I'm very interested to see who recovers and how well they can all do, especially on the double.
My one and only prediction is that Kev James will walk away from states with two medals. As a sophomore. He's a delco bull, anything can happen.
DeleteCoyle's out of the DMR.
ReplyDeleteCV splits for states 306,51,201,420=1018
ReplyDeleteTo RJJL and Forrest CRN, what you don't understand about this mile race is that both of these guys are already State Champions. While they're both very competitive and really want to win, they're not afraid to run. Ned Willig was in great shape, but he had that history of running poorly in the State meet. So, he couldn't take any chances. Coyle and Russell are both in great shape and they're not afraid to fail. That is what could produce a historic race. Coyle being sick last week could freshen his legs up a little. Sometimes, a forced rest is good for the body.Don't count Huemmler out either. I'm sure he feels like he has to make up for last week's fiasco.
ReplyDeleteWillig ran 4:11 outdoors the year before at states, I don't know if he had a hisotry of running poorly anywhere ... he was, however, looking for his first ever state championship and he was a pretty comfortable favorite so he had to race carefully if he was going to pull of the win and set up his team to win double gold ... so i do agree in some respects
DeleteAnonymous, I like your enthusiasm for this race and I really hope you’re right and I’m wrong about the mile time, because I would love to see sub 4:10. I agree with you, these guys are very competitive, they work really hard and they'll be going all out for the win. It’s just that dropping 4 seconds off of a 4:14 PR is so much harder than from say, a 4:30. To date, Huemmler’s 4:16 is the top open indoor mile time in the state and while that’s an outstanding run, it’s really not even close to 4:10.
DeleteAnd I’m definitely not counting Huemmler out. I’m not even sure how to predict this one. Any combo of Huemmler, Russell and Stone (alpha order here) wouldn’t surprise me. Harriman could get into the mix too and Groh would probably be my sleeper pick for a top 5 finish. But I still say (reluctantly) that a 4:14 will win it.
-RJJL
If you're referring to Ned's "history of running poorly" at the State meet" to his sophomore year at indoor states and districts outdoor... he was a sophomore. Junior year he went 4:11 outdoors. Being his teammate and seeing how hard he worked on the track, if Ned wanted to go for Endress' record, he would have. It wasn't that he didn't want to take chances, it's that he's a great teammate and only did what he had to to win and set us up nicely in the DMR. He was actually feeling pretty bad for the DMR, he had a headache I believe, and still dropped a 3:00.
ReplyDeleteI do agree with the forced rest being a good thing. Your body knows best and sometimes it needs to keep your mind in check.
I do expect James to come out with two medals, both around 5th place.
Why wouldn't Coyle run the DMR? Unless an injury occurs in the mile there would be no reason for him not to.
-RTJ
i think they are saying based on his sickness he may not be healthy enough for the dm ... they have enough other pieces to make something happen, but certainly makes the dmr much more interesting if coyle isn't on the anchor for lasalle ... also has to make you less confident in his open mile potential
ReplyDeleteand for the record ned is the man that's why he is the background of the blog ;)
btw rtj you should join the prediction contest on facebook, i'd like to see your picks, same with you chris if you would be willing to join